Completely agree with 15 and 20. The level of hate is very thick, here.
I HATE debates like this over this medium. However, I agree with Lauren.
Also, #19, Could you explain what you meant in this statment, Rise? I don't quite seem to understand. Does this mean that, if the government were to define abortion as murder, you would still support it?
"Would I, the OP, classify abortion as 'murder'? Yeah sure, whatever. That makes no difference that I still support it."
Also, #19, Could you explain what you meant in this statment, Rise? I don't quite seem to understand. Does this mean that, if the government were to define abortion as murder, you would still support it?
"Would I, the OP, classify abortion as 'murder'? Yeah sure, whatever. That makes no difference that I still support it."
Pro-choice all the way. Wouldn't mind arguing about it all day but I hate how these forums work.
@naftali BS. Always someone willing to help? That's rich. I will say that imo the argument is one of ideals (pro-life) vs practicality (pro-choice). And I doubt the decision is ever taken likely.
@naftali BS. Always someone willing to help? That's rich. I will say that imo the argument is one of ideals (pro-life) vs practicality (pro-choice). And I doubt the decision is ever taken likely.
@IPlaytoRelax: I'm glad you asked that question, which offers me an opportunity to clarify myself there ... a guy with an explosives belt who blows himself up in a crowd is either a terrorist or a venerable martyr. The holocaust was either an unparalleled mass killing or a noble attempt to cleanse the world from undesirable subjects. You will find people on both sides of the fence, and every term they attach to people or actions they agree/disagree with is true to THEM. Names are irrelevant, since the act remains the same. If Lauren decides that people like me who advocate 'baby murder' are pieces of shit, fair enough. Why not call it 'infant slaying' or fetus frenzy', that sounds even more horrendous. I still support it, however, and the emotionally-laden pejorations which the pro-choice people feel forced to use at every given chance don't sway my opinion.
"Does this mean that, if the government were to define abortion as murder, you would still support it?"
That's what I'm trying to say, basically.
"Does this mean that, if the government were to define abortion as murder, you would still support it?"
That's what I'm trying to say, basically.
Pro Choice!!! - I think every 'fetus' should be given the choice of living with her hood rat mom, or retroactively aborting the coke addicted slut. Lets face it, when it comes to women making choices,all you have to do is look at why they spread their legs like a cheap card table to see how wrong they can be.
I'm not saying guys are off the hook in the brains department, but turning little babies into scrambled eggs is a little much, regardless of how you libtards twist words. Listen kids, we all know that abortion is needed to correct the millions of rapes and molestations that occur every day in this country - to say nothing of France! But please! The time to make the choice is before you operate that zipper. If you really are in favor of abortion, just jump off a bridge, then at least you will have solved 2 problems.
Of course, I have never faced such a terrible choice of legalized murder, but then again I wasn't brought up by homicidal lesbian women who want everyone to share their pain. I hope this advice helps somebody that has come to lichess looking for answers to this totally artificial question. Maybe if you were smart enough to play chess you wouldn't be searching for ways to commit murder in the most goulish way possible. - savages.
I'm not saying guys are off the hook in the brains department, but turning little babies into scrambled eggs is a little much, regardless of how you libtards twist words. Listen kids, we all know that abortion is needed to correct the millions of rapes and molestations that occur every day in this country - to say nothing of France! But please! The time to make the choice is before you operate that zipper. If you really are in favor of abortion, just jump off a bridge, then at least you will have solved 2 problems.
Of course, I have never faced such a terrible choice of legalized murder, but then again I wasn't brought up by homicidal lesbian women who want everyone to share their pain. I hope this advice helps somebody that has come to lichess looking for answers to this totally artificial question. Maybe if you were smart enough to play chess you wouldn't be searching for ways to commit murder in the most goulish way possible. - savages.
"Masturbation could be likened to murder along my line of reasoning"
Then somebody better put me in front of a court for genocide because I killed two million souls before breakfast!
Then somebody better put me in front of a court for genocide because I killed two million souls before breakfast!
chunkymonkey swings... outta da park!
Of course, the parent poster equates masturbation with turning babies into puree. That is the way sick twisted liberal minds work. They simply cannot put two sentences together without violating some random law of nature.
But seriously chunkymonkey, you gotta stop or you'll go blind. (I wear glasses now, so I figured that was an early warning sign)
Of course, the parent poster equates masturbation with turning babies into puree. That is the way sick twisted liberal minds work. They simply cannot put two sentences together without violating some random law of nature.
But seriously chunkymonkey, you gotta stop or you'll go blind. (I wear glasses now, so I figured that was an early warning sign)
Oh my... how this thread has devolved.
Why do you people even ask the opinions of others if you're going to say things to the nature like "I can't believe people like Lauren-T actually exist?"
Where is the logic in trying to defend your position by first launching a personal attack against an participant in the debate? Is this middle school debate club?
Regardless, the question was asked and I replied with the way that I felt, if you feel different, that's your choice, but attacking me personally over my individual beliefs is pretty paltry and really just makes those of you who do it look more petty.
Abortion is a very hot-button issue.
Medically speaking, the fetus' heart starts beating in the 16-20 day range after conception. That's literally less than three weeks. The big debate is where to classify life.
If you classify life as "of possessing a conscious mind," then you can safely eradicate a number of undesirable humans under the same banner as you could merit the cause for abortion of a human fetus.
Should you classify life as "of possessing a beating heart," then you are technically aiding in the commission of murder around one month post conception.
It's actually somewhat sad that in this day and age, with our societies being of "progress" that we cannot accept that others believe differently.
Equating masturbation to abortion is probably the dumbest argument I've ever read, in my life. You guys are free to flush your "potential babies" down the drain to your heart's content, because literally, if there's no conception, it's a moot point. Since you have to masturbate, it's likely you're single, and will be for some time, so there won't even be an issue of fertilization for us to debate.
I believe the right to life is sacred, every man, woman, and child is guaranteed the rights to LIFE, liberty, and happiness. That includes unborn children. It's written in the United States Bill of Rights. By law, abortion should be illegal. However, it's necessary in many cases.
I will never back down on my stance that men who support abortion are assholes at the least, if you're having sex with a female, you know and accept the chance that she may become pregnant. If you refuse that responsibility, you should abstain from sex and buy a fuck ton of lotion for your pleasure.
I have and will never have sex with someone that I could not see as a potential life partner and parent to my children. The idea that someone could see abortion as "just another method of birth control" is downright insulting to me.
Before you head off on your high horse, I'm not political and I don't go to church. My parents raised me right. Sex requires personal responsibility. Abortions are had by irresponsible people.
Why do you people even ask the opinions of others if you're going to say things to the nature like "I can't believe people like Lauren-T actually exist?"
Where is the logic in trying to defend your position by first launching a personal attack against an participant in the debate? Is this middle school debate club?
Regardless, the question was asked and I replied with the way that I felt, if you feel different, that's your choice, but attacking me personally over my individual beliefs is pretty paltry and really just makes those of you who do it look more petty.
Abortion is a very hot-button issue.
Medically speaking, the fetus' heart starts beating in the 16-20 day range after conception. That's literally less than three weeks. The big debate is where to classify life.
If you classify life as "of possessing a conscious mind," then you can safely eradicate a number of undesirable humans under the same banner as you could merit the cause for abortion of a human fetus.
Should you classify life as "of possessing a beating heart," then you are technically aiding in the commission of murder around one month post conception.
It's actually somewhat sad that in this day and age, with our societies being of "progress" that we cannot accept that others believe differently.
Equating masturbation to abortion is probably the dumbest argument I've ever read, in my life. You guys are free to flush your "potential babies" down the drain to your heart's content, because literally, if there's no conception, it's a moot point. Since you have to masturbate, it's likely you're single, and will be for some time, so there won't even be an issue of fertilization for us to debate.
I believe the right to life is sacred, every man, woman, and child is guaranteed the rights to LIFE, liberty, and happiness. That includes unborn children. It's written in the United States Bill of Rights. By law, abortion should be illegal. However, it's necessary in many cases.
I will never back down on my stance that men who support abortion are assholes at the least, if you're having sex with a female, you know and accept the chance that she may become pregnant. If you refuse that responsibility, you should abstain from sex and buy a fuck ton of lotion for your pleasure.
I have and will never have sex with someone that I could not see as a potential life partner and parent to my children. The idea that someone could see abortion as "just another method of birth control" is downright insulting to me.
Before you head off on your high horse, I'm not political and I don't go to church. My parents raised me right. Sex requires personal responsibility. Abortions are had by irresponsible people.
one other gripe... If you DO insist on not giving your kid the same chance at life as someone gave you, please, for the love of anything sacred - do NOT display your dead baby pictures in the workplace.
That type of behavior is frowned upon.
That type of behavior is frowned upon.
"Since you have to masturbate, it's likely you're single, and will be for some time, so there won't even be an issue of fertilization for us to debate."
Holy cow! One minute you're discouraging the act of sex unless you're ready to accept a potential consequence and then imply you wouldn't need to masturbate if you were in a relationship? Don't you think that contradicts what you've said somewhat? Conception is a risk no matter the precautions you take - so you're suggesting couples don't have sex unless they are prepared to have a kid? I think you're sticking your head in the sand and not accepting the harsh realities of life.
Holy cow! One minute you're discouraging the act of sex unless you're ready to accept a potential consequence and then imply you wouldn't need to masturbate if you were in a relationship? Don't you think that contradicts what you've said somewhat? Conception is a risk no matter the precautions you take - so you're suggesting couples don't have sex unless they are prepared to have a kid? I think you're sticking your head in the sand and not accepting the harsh realities of life.
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